Saturday, April 27, 2019

Subjective Coin Grading

Grading has always been subjective, always will be to some degree.  What you are trying to do with the coin can sway your opinion.


Saturday, April 6, 2019

West Point Quarters

Q: What's better than finding the secret toy surprise in the bottom of a box of Cracker Jack?
A: Finding a quarter with a W on it.


A couple weeks ago I announced the possible release of West Point Quarters into circulation.  How fortunate for my reputation that this turned out to be true!  The US Mint made the announcement on April 2: They are out there. 

They should start showing up in banks within the next couple of weeks.  One fellow commented on a video by Blue Ridge Silver Hound that he had found 4 already.  It's still a bit early for that and the fellow has yet to verify his claim with photos.  Unless those photos show up I call BS.   The time it takes for coins fresh from the mint to move through distribution networks to reach local banks suggest the first W-Quarters will be available starting around the third week in April.  The coins are being mixed with Philadelphia AND Denver quarters and are available ONLY in circulation.  The US Mint will not be offering these quarters for sale.

Let the hunt begin!

That video by Blue Ridge Silver hound mentioned above is where I learned of the bounty offered by PCGS: $5000 for the 1st West Point Lowell Quarter to be submitted for certification.
In addition to the First Discovery, they'll be offering special holders with First week of Discovery and Early Discovery pedigrees.  I suppose all the hubbub and excitement of people submitting a pile of coins in the next month will allow PCGS to recoup the bounty.


REWARD!

I have also offered a reward for the 1st West Point Quarter donated to The BIG Show: a 2001 Proof Set!

I'll enhance that offer to allow a choice from several potential items, just in case the winner already has that proof set.  I just have to clean up the desk a bit to find some good stuff.

Meanwhile the quarter will be added to the BIG Show Package and some lucky viewer will win it.

What Will They Be Worth?

Aside from the first discovery submitted to PCGS that will bring the owner a fat payday, the big question everyone is wondering is what sort of premium these coins will fetch?

Each of these 5 America The Beautiful quarters with the West Point mintmark will be limited to a production run of 2 million units.  This will put them tied in 205th place for least produced Washington Quarters.  See Mintage Chart below.  This makes them hardly a rarity.  As business strikes go, they will be a bit less common, with only 1932 D, 1932-S, and 1937-S being produced in fewer numbers.

What we'll see is a burst in value as collectors seek to complete their sets.  There will be some speculation as these coins are found, certified, promoted, and hyped.  Much of the value will be novelty in the first weeks after discovery.

I remember the discovery of the 1995 Doubled Die DDO-001 (CONECA) and all the fuss.  Articles in Numismatic News, lots of talk on the early internet chat groups.  It even made the cover of COINS Magazine.  These things were HOT!  I recall prices reaching into the 4 digits when it was first discovered.  Over time, as more specimens were found, prices cooled.  Nowadays, Superb certified specimens can be picked up for less than $100.

The Mint has never been all that great at promoting its products and even less great at putting out a decent product.  Most of the quarters that find their way into circulation will be overlooked by an apathetic public.  It's the collectors in the know who will be furiously hunting these quarters down.  Perhaps media exposure will put people on alert for later issues this year but with 2 weeks notice and a media more concerned with celebrities and politicians, this special issue has already seen most of the fanfare its going to get.  We can always hope for a 15 second sound bite late at night during a 24 hour news channel looking for a human interest story after a neti pot commercial.

It will be the coin roll hunters and coin dealers who will hunt these coins down.  Upon finding one you can take comfort in knowing these folks will run out to purchase every last quarter roll in town they can get their hands on in the hopes of building some inventory.  What they don't grab will work their way into circulation to be scraped, smudged, and screwed up forever.  It won't take but a couple weeks for the circulated specimens to take on all those nicks and dings that make us cringe and weep.  I project 2 classes of resulting coinage: Minty Fresh, straight out of the roll and well protected, and the run of the mill stuff.  These will be separated by 2 weeks of circulation.

I made a video last night picking through a brand spanking new roll of 2016 pennies.  Fact of the matter is most of the coins in these new rolls won't make MS65.  Looking at PCGS and NGC population reports for Mint State modern coins, MS67 and higher are few and far between, and many of those were from Mint Sets, Mint Rolls, and maybe a mint bag here and there.  These West Point quarters have already lost most of the high grade examples during their trip from the Mint to their designated targets.  Many have yet to be sacrificed to the coin rolling machine demons and every overexcited 12 year old coin roll hunter with no gloves


Coins above MS66 will command a handsome premium.  I've heard estimates of hundreds to the low thousands.  That would be consistent with what we see in other issues.  Perhaps the Novelty Premium will add another 20%.  The hunters and dealers will save tens of thousands of coins fresh from the rolls.  They'll be good for $5-10 based on the mintage figures.  Circulated specimens, of which I expect the lions share of production will end up as will offer little numismatic value.  Their greatest value will be in attracting new collectors to the hobby. 

In my opinion, that makes them PRICELESS!

That's my 2¢.
Happy Hunting and Good Luck.


Mintage Chart for Washington Quarters through rank 205

Rank
Date/MM
Mintage
1
1964 SMS 50
2
1936 Proof 3837
3
1937 Proof 5542
4
1938 Proof 8045
5
1939 Proof 8795
6
1940 Proof 11246
7
1941 Proof 15287
8
1942 Proof 21123
9
1950 Proof 51386
10
1951 Proof 57500
11
1952 Proof 81980
12
1953 Proof 128800
13
1954 Proof 233300
14
1955 Proof 378200
15
1932 S
408000
16
1932 D
436800
17
2012 S ELY Silver Proof 557891
18
2012 S CHA Silver Proof 557891
19
2012 S ACA Silver Proof 557891
20
2012 S VLC Silver Proof 557891
21
2012 S DEN Silver Proof 557891
22
2013 S WHM Silver Proof 579409
23
2013 S PVY Silver Proof 579409
24
2013 S BAS Silver Proof 579409
25
2013 S FMH Silver Proof 579409
26
2013 S RSH Silver Proof 579409
27
2010 P HOT Satin 583897
28
2010 D HOT Satin 583897
29
2010 P YST Satin 583897
30
2010 D YST Satin 583897
31
2010 P YOS Satin 583897
32
2010 D YOS Satin 583897
33
2010 P CAN Satin 583897
34
2010 D CAN Satin 583897
35
2010 P MHD Satin 583897
36
2010 D MHD Satin 583897
37
1956 Proof 669384
38
1995 S Silver Proof 679985
39
2011 S GTB Silver Proof 722076
40
2011 S GLA Silver Proof 722076
41
2011 S OLY Silver Proof 722076
42
2011 S VKB Silver Proof 722076
43
2011 S CHK Silver Proof 722076
44
1997 S Silver Proof 741678
45
2008 P OK Satin 745464
46
2008 D OK Satin 745464
47
2008 P NM Satin 745464
48
2008 D NM Satin 745464
49
2008 P AZ Satin 745464
50
2008 D AZ Satin 745464
51
2008 P AK Satin 745464
52
2008 D AK Satin 745464
53
2008 P HI Satin 745464
54
2008 D HI Satin 745464
55
1993 S Silver Proof 761353
56
1996 S Silver Proof 775021
57
2009 P DC Satin 784614
58
2009 D DC Satin 784614
59
2009 P PR Satin 784614
60
2009 D PR Satin 784614
61
2009 P GU Satin 784614
62
2009 D GU Satin 784614
63
2009 P AS Satin 784614
64
2009 D AS Satin 784614
65
2009 P VI Satin 784614
66
2009 D VI Satin 784614
67
2009 P MP Satin 784614
68
2009 D MP Satin 784614
69
1994 S Silver Proof 785329
70
1999 S DE Silver Proof 804565
71
1999 S PA Silver Proof 804565
72
1999 S NJ Silver Proof 804565
73
1999 S GA Silver Proof 804565
74
1999 S CT Silver Proof 804565
75
2006 P NV Satin 847361
76
2006 D NV Satin 847361
77
2006 P NE Satin 847361
78
2006 D NE Satin 847361
79
2006 P CO Satin 847361
80
2006 D CO Satin 847361
81
2006 P ND Satin 847361
82
2006 D ND Satin 847361
83
2006 P SD Satin 847361
84
2006 D SD Satin 847361
85
2010 S HOT Silver Proof 859435
86
2010 S YST Silver Proof 859435
87
2010 S YOS Silver Proof 859435
88
2010 S CAN Silver Proof 859435
89
2010 S MHD Silver Proof 859435
90
1958 Proof 875652
91
1998 S Silver Proof 878792
92
2001 S NY Silver Proof 889697
93
2001 S NC Silver Proof 889697
94
2001 S RI Silver Proof 889697
95
2001 S VT Silver Proof 889697
96
2001 S KY Silver Proof 889697
97
2002 S TN Silver Proof 892229
98
2002 S OH Silver Proof 892229
99
2002 S LA Silver Proof 892229
100
2002 S IN Silver Proof 892229
101
2002 S MS Silver Proof 892229
102
2007 P MT Satin 895628
103
2007 D MT Satin 895628
104
2007 P WA Satin 895628
105
2007 D WA Satin 895628
106
2007 P ID Satin 895628
107
2007 D ID Satin 895628
108
2007 P WY Satin 895628
109
2007 D WY Satin 895628
110
2007 P UT Satin 895628
111
2007 D UT Satin 895628
112
2013 S FMH Proof 911451
113
2013 S BAS Proof 911525
114
2013 S PVY Proof 913563
115
2013 S RSH Proof 920695
116
2013 S WHM Proof 950080
117
2012 S DEN Proof 957856
118
2012 S CHA Proof 960049
119
2012 S ACA Proof 960409
120
2012 S VLC Proof 961272
121
2000 S MA Silver Proof 965421
122
2000 S MY Silver Proof 965421
123
2000 S SC Silver Proof 965421
124
2000 S NH Silver Proof 965421
125
2000 S VA Silver Proof 965421
126
2009 S DC Silver Proof 996548
127
2009 S PR Silver Proof 996548
128
2009 S GU Silver Proof 996548
129
2009 S AS Silver Proof 996548
130
2009 S VI Silver Proof 996548
131
2009 S MP Silver Proof 996548
132
2012 S ELY Proof 1010361
133
2008 S HI Silver Proof 1020768
134
2003 S IL Silver Proof 1125755
135
2003 S AL Silver Proof 1125755
136
2003 S ME Silver Proof 1125755
137
2003 S MO Silver Proof 1125755
138
2003 S AR Silver Proof 1125755
139
2014 S EVG Uncirculated 1139140
140
2014 S DUN Uncirculated 1146000
141
1959 Proof 1149291
142
2005 P CA Satin 1160000
143
2005 D CA Satin 1160000
144
2005 P MN Satin 1160000
145
2005 D MN Satin 1160000
146
2005 P OR Satin 1160000
147
2005 D OR Satin 1160000
148
2005 P KS Satin 1160000
149
2005 D KS Satin 1160000
150
2005 P WV Satin 1160000
151
2005 D WV Satin 1160000
152
2008 S OK Silver Proof 1192908
153
2008 S NM Silver Proof 1192908
154
2008 S AZ Silver Proof 1192908
155
2008 S AK Silver Proof 1192908
156
2014 S ARC Uncirculated 1203100
157
2014 S SHN Uncirculated 1239320
158
1957 Proof 1247952
159
2011 S CHK Proof 1266010
160
2011 S OLY Proof 1267361
161
2011 S VKB Proof 1267691
162
2011 S GLA Proof 1268452
163
2011 S GTB Proof 1271553
164
2007 S MT Silver Proof 1313481
165
2007 S WA Silver Proof 1313481
166
2007 S ID Silver Proof 1313481
167
2007 S WY Silver Proof 1313481
168
2007 S UT Silver Proof 1313481
169
2013 S FMH Uncirculated 1314740
170
2013 S BAS Uncirculated 1316580
171
1992 S Silver Proof 1317579
172
2014 S GSM Uncirculated 1360780
173
2013 S RSH Uncirculated 1373260
174
2012 S CHA Uncirculated 1389020
175
2010 S MHD Proof 1397101
176
2010 S CAN Proof 1399970
177
2010 S YOS Proof 1400215
178
2010 S HOT Proof 1401903
179
2012 S DEN Uncirculated 1401920
180
2010 S YST Proof 1402756
181
2012 S VLC Uncirculated 1407520
182
2012 S ACA Uncirculated 1409120
183
2013 S PVY Uncirculated 1425860
184
2006 S NV Silver Proof 1585008
185
2006 S NE Silver Proof 1585008
186
2006 S CO Silver Proof 1585008
187
2006 S ND Silver Proof 1585008
188
2006 S SD Silver Proof 1585008
189
2013 S WHM Uncirculated 1606900
190
1937 S
1652000
191
2005 S CA Silver Proof 1678649
192
2005 S MN Silver Proof 1678649
193
2005 S OR Silver Proof 1678649
194
2005 S KS Silver Proof 1678649
195
2005 S WV Silver Proof 1678949
196
2012 S ELY Uncirculated 1679240
197
1960 Proof 1691602
198
1996 S Proof 1750244
199
2004 S MI Silver Proof 1769786
200
2004 S FL Silver Proof 1769786
201
2004 S TX Silver Proof 1769786
202
2004 S IA Silver Proof 1769786
203
2004 S WI Silver Proof 1769786
204
1967 SMS 1800000
205
2019-W Lowell 2000000
205
2019-W AMP 2000000
205
2019-W Pacific 2000000
205
2019-W San Antonio 2000000
205
2019-W Frank Church 2000000

The full chart has 642 different Washington Quarters and I have yet to add all the 2019 PDS issues.
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